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Thursday, November 26, 2009

Re: [Technical-Investor] GOLD ON VERTICAL FALL !!!

 

on expected lines.....

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:17 PM, BALAJI Jayaraman <bctbalaji@gmail.com> wrote:


GOLD CMP......... 1139.70 $$



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[Technical-Investor] GOLD ON VERTICAL FALL !!!

 
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[Technical-Investor] Dubai economic crisis - what is happening?

 

It is surprising, this article in the following link was written on January 21, 2009 and it takes it toll in Indian Markets now :- (((


http://www.qatarliving.com/node/347573


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Re: [Technical-Investor] BUY NIFTY 4830-4850, HOLD FOR TGT 5500-5600

 

Sl is closing below 4820..i guess.
 
He never gives SL..you have to guess.
 
AP
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Akhil Jain
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Technical-Investor] BUY NIFTY 4830-4850, HOLD FOR TGT 5500-5600

 

Any SL ?

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:53 AM, BALAJI Jayaraman <bctbalaji@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Those who buy in this panic will be benefited.

BUY NIFTY @ 4830-4850, HOLD FOR TGT 5500-5600 //  Bank Nifty heading 10500+

Nifty (spot) cmp 4841 / 4842 // as i write this  // 4837-4824 is important support zone and bounce back expected

Dont panic. Use dips wisely & be an opportunist. Markets will be heavily volatile. Be ready to face it.

Rgds/Balaji


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Re: [Technical-Investor] BUY NIFTY 4830-4850, HOLD FOR TGT 5500-5600

 

Any SL ?

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:53 AM, BALAJI Jayaraman <bctbalaji@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Those who buy in this panic will be benefited.

BUY NIFTY @ 4830-4850, HOLD FOR TGT 5500-5600 //  Bank Nifty heading 10500+

Nifty (spot) cmp 4841 / 4842 // as i write this  // 4837-4824 is important support zone and bounce back expected

Dont panic. Use dips wisely & be an opportunist. Markets will be heavily volatile. Be ready to face it.

Rgds/Balaji


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[sharetrading] Shopping list due to Dubai Fall

 

Hi


Does anyone have a long term shopping list of stocks for investors.

This might turn out to be a good buying opportunity - for stocks with domestic consumption stories.


Expert view solicited.


Shaila 

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:50 PM, vinod sukhani <vinodsukhani@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
 
[Attachment(s) from vinod sukhani included below]




Thursday November 26, 05:30 PM Reuters

Dubai fails to stem market drop on debt fears

By Tamara Walid and Jeremy Gaunt

DUBAI/LONDON (Reuters) - Dubai's debt problems shook European banking shares on Thursday despite the emirate's efforts to minimise the impact of a debt restructuring plan at two of its biggest companies that raised fears of default.

Banks shares, which had recovered over the last six months on hopes the worst of a global economic crisis was over, fell to lows not seen since May on fears of exposure to Dubai.

Dubai, whose extravagant building projects have been largely put on hold since the crisis, said on Wednesday it would ask creditors at flagship firms Dubai World and property developer Nakheel, to delay repayment on billions of dollars of debt.

On Thursday, it tried to revive some confidence, by saying its profitable DP World would not be involved in the restructuring.

"It might be a move to distinguish the solvent from less solvent companies in an attempt to shift the weight away from the less exposed entities," said John Sfakianakis, chief economist at Saudi Fransi bank.

"That doesn't entirely allay market concerns but it could signal the beginning of a restructuring and re-categorisation process."

Wednesday's announcement sent the cost of insuring Dubai's debt against default soaring and bond prices tumbling.

State-run Dubai World has $59 billion of liabilities, its subsidiary Nakheel said in August, a large proportion of Dubai's total debt of $80 billion.

BONDS EXTEND LOSSES

Nakheel's Islamic bond prices extended losses on Thursday, falling 12 points to 72, their lowest level since February, according to Reuters data.

The debt, which was originally due to mature on Dec. 14, 2009, traded as high as 110 on Wednesday before the Dubai government said it would ask creditors for a standstill.

Dubai's credit defaults swaps are being quoted as high as 500-550 bps, some traders said, while the cost of insuring Qatari and Abu Dhabi debt has also surged since the news.

Bahrain's five year CDS jumped 37 basis points to 231.5 bps on Thursday as regional sovereign, but some analysts downplayed the regional fallout.

"I would not rush into talking about contagion. Anything from Abu Dhabi or Qatar is backed by serious money. Dubai is a lot more leveraged," said Youssef Affany, a relationship manager at Citi who specialises in the region.

"There will be some level of solidarity from the emirates and the big neighbour, Saudi," he said.

Analysts expect financial support from deep-pocketed Abu Dhabi, a neighbouring member of the United Arab Emirates, to keep Dubai afloat. But Dubai will most probably have to abandon an economic model that focused on heavy real estate investment and inflows of foreign capital.

The announcement appeared to be timed to minimise its impact on regional markets; it came after the stock market shut and just before the eve of the long Eid al-Ad holiday, which will close many firms and government offices in Dubai and the Gulf until Dec. 6.

Dubai's economy was hit hard as the global credit crunch over the past year ended a six-year boom in the region and sent the emirate's once-flourishing property sector into decline.

Last weekend, the ruler of Dubai, Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, reshuffled the board of the Investment Corporation of Dubai, which manages his wealth, and changed the chief of the Dubai International Financial Center.

The reshuffle, which removed boom-era leaders from key positions, was widely seen as a shift towards more conservative stewardship of Dubai's resources.

(Writing by Lin Noueihed, editing by Elizabeth Piper)

(For more news on Reuters Money visit http://www.reutersmoney.in)



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[Technical-Investor] plotting DMI and adx in amibroker.

 

Can some one give an idea
cannot differentiae between +DI ,-DI and DMI

 
Deepak Patade,
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From: difthink <sezhilmaran@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thu, November 26, 2009 5:10:14 PM
Subject: [Technical-Investor] Re: Request For Ebook link to ADXcellence_Power_Trend_Strategies_Charles_Schaap

 



Hello,

> As per my grasping, the DMI period is 13 and adx period is 8.

This is discussed here also...may help...

http://www.omnitrad er.com/omnitrade r/proforum/ thread-view. asp?threadid= 1236&posts= 23

Ezhil

--- In Technical-Investor@ yahoogroups. com, "rk" <rk1235_mb@. ..> wrote:
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> Sriram,
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> As per my grasping, the DMI period is 13 and adx period is 8.
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> This can be achieved in Falcon by plotting the ADX twice.
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> If you are not able to do it, I am attaching herewith the .fch2 file , which you can store in the folder where other .fch2 files are stored.
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> I hope, it helps.
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> rk
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> Thanks. In the Indicator area, in the normal Metastock or Falcon or Iris, I find that there is only one time period, i.e 14 period stipulated. The presentation shows 13,8 as periods. Possibly one is the period and the other is the average line. But none of the systems permit the average line. What do I do?
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> Subject: Re: [Technical-Investor ] Request For Ebook link to ADXcellence_ Power_Trend_ Strategies_ Charles_Schaap
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> Here it is:
> http://www.4shared. com/file/ 132102066/ 4e2bb04/ADXcelle nce_Power_ Trend_Strategies _Charles_ Schaap_pdf. html?s=1
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[Technical-Investor] Time frame

 

i got one on a time frame of 15 minutes.
it is working fine
 
Deepak Patade,
Nasik.



From: Ray Seth <rayseth@gmail.com>
To: Technical-Investor@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 27, 2009 12:37:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Technical-Investor] BUY NIFTY 4830-4850, HOLD FOR TGT 5500-5600

 

Hi Prashanth,
IWhat timeframe did you get the short signal?
Regards
Ray

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Prashanth K <prash454.ta@ gmail.com> wrote:


I am a Trend Follower and hence for me, I trade what the system tells me. Yesterday went short and shall keep the same till it says to reverse.

But the important point is as to whether this is just another panic or a precursor to something larger.

In May of 1997, a attack on the Thai currency started what we know as the ASEAN Crisis. It did not at that point of time inflect India since we were a closed Economy. 

Can the current Dubai problem start a similar trend which affects everyone world wide? I think only time will tell, but the ASEAN crisis is worth a read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Asian_Financial_Crisis

Cheers

Prashanth


On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:53 AM, BALAJI Jayaraman <bctbalaji@gmail. com> wrote:
 

Those who buy in this panic will be benefited.

BUY NIFTY @ 4830-4850, HOLD FOR TGT 5500-5600 //  Bank Nifty heading 10500+

Nifty (spot) cmp 4841 / 4842 // as i write this  // 4837-4824 is important support zone and bounce back expected

Dont panic. Use dips wisely & be an opportunist. Markets will be heavily volatile. Be ready to face it.

Rgds/Balaji







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[sharetrading] Re: Do things that you are told not to do !

 

I do something different from you
I listen to all the PURE NEWS ITEMS
Pure news means all the real data about markets

But I do not listen to their views like why the markets went up or down and will tell you why

A couple of years back , ET used to say
" Markets went up because Indian economy is slated to improve "

The very next day they would say
" Markets went down because the Indian economy is likely to become weak "

When this got repeated 2-3 times , I said good bye to other people`s views

Incidently , once I got introduced to a stock market reporter of one vernacular daily. He used to report stock market news and HIS EXPERT VIEWS

After some discussions , I realized that he knew neither head nor tail about investing in markets

And all of us attach so much importance to what we are told not to do or do by some unknown calibre guy or gal

Time to THINK and RETHINK about our behaviour

Cheers

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> just still my thought. there is saying that keep business channel on with voice on mute mode. i trade from 2006 and experience 1 medium and one major crash. look everywhere for profitable trading idea. surf every site for so called trading idea. hear all analyst and try many strategies to earn fortune. track mutual fund holdings, fii activity and many more that can't even remember today. and no need to say, lost more then i can afford. then i apply my strategy. stopped to see cnbc, read tips on news paper and net, rejected calls providing jackpot tips. get familiar with basic technical analysis and some fundamental terms. start to see charts and applying my gained knowledge derived from reference books. and now when i look back, feel silly and frustrated for wasting my time and money for nothing. today, I'm confident to progress slowly but steadily with each day. i believe that all the events-bad or good- discounted on chart. just follow charts, and u
> will never regret. read and study and apply. find loophole, correct it. and so on. there is no alternative to effort. more effort, more gain. and it make sense to learn to make own bread and feed for life then get ready to eat bread that feeds for a day. feel strongly that there is all sources available for juniors to become seniors if junior ones have desire to. and groups like our ones is one of them. thanks for providing platform.
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> Over the years, I have realized that the best way to create wealth and invest smartly is to not listen to what people around you are saying. It goes all the way back to even before I started investing. I was told not to invest in the stock markets because it is gambling and almost everybody loses money. It is gambling only for those who invest without knowledge, guidance and based on hot tips and such people do end up losing money. For me it has been one of the best blessings in life.
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> When I started investing, I was told by brokers and other players to indulge in day trading and futures and options trading. I did try it and ended up losing money. Thankfully, I could afford the losses I made. It taught me a lesson never to listen and follow random people. Following DhirubhaiAmbani, SunilMittal or LaxmiMittal make sense â€" but following your orthodontist when it comes to investing or business is a bit silly.
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> Later, when I started picking up value based assets a lot of people, including relatives ridiculed me. I remember long back I picked up Bank of India and how an uncle of mine made fun of me and told me I was too young to understand anything. He told me Bank of India would not be able to survive when big International banks came in India. He was working with an international bank which recently went bankrupt. Bank of India went up all the way from Rs. 10 to Rs. 410. An investment of Rs. 10 lakhs would be worth Rs. 4.10 crores. My uncle instead had spent that Rs. 10 lakhs in buying some Japanese car. I luckily have always believed that we Indians can do anything we want to and we have the power to form the world's best companies
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> At the peak of the recent stock market crash, I bought while some of the largest Mutual Fund Managers and TV analysts were selling and talking about doom. We all know what happened. It was the same story with Gold. Of course gold has rewarded investors more in dollar terms than rupee terms, but the main spurt in gold is yet to come. Everybody will be surprised by it. RBI has done the right thing by picking it up â€" they will earn in excess of 200% on their investment in the coming two years.
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> Throughout life, I have realized that whenever I asked someone for advice they usually told me not to do it. It is too risky. Steel, cement, autos, power all were sectors which I invested in even though people told me not to invest in them. I have realized that the best way to invest most of the times is when everybody else discourages you from investing.
>
> This means that most others have still not realized the potential and the opportunity available. How many people were buying companies like LIC Housing Finance or Jindal Steel and Power barely ten months ago? Today Jindal Steel and Power has rewarded investors over 700% while LIC Housing Finance has rewarded investors over 370%.
>
> Now does it make sense to run behind power IPOs today or run after Jindal Steel and Power at these levels? I would go after new investments which have been ignored by the masses, because once again there is a possibility of extra ordinary returns.
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> Today a stock like Infosys can not make you several crores, if you were to invest only a couple of lakhs. Two decades ago it would have.
>
> Yesterday I was looking at the balance sheet of a company that can easily reward investors 500%-600% in the coming 2-3 years simply based on fundamentals. Still almost no Mutual Fund, Hedge Fund or Private Investors have noticed it. In fact most of them have discarded it, because they find it more exciting to run behind what is considered `hot'.
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> Anyone who is investing below Rs. 15 â€" 20 crore can easily benefit from such opportunities. I do understand that for a Mutual Fund having Rs. 20,000 crore it becomes extremely hard to give the type of returns I am talking about.
>
> If the entire company is worth only Rs. 200 crore, how on earth will they invest anything that makes a sizeable difference?
>
> At this moment stay away from the Sensex â€" only look at hidden gems. There still are a few. Life always gives us opportunities; it is up to us to make the most of them. Over the years I have seen the financial state of people change simply because they made the right investment decisions.
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> Financial Technologies, Pantaloons, Bharti (Airtel), Sesa Goa and so many others are all examples of companies that have created immense wealth for investors at one point or the other. Some of them have multiplied investor wealth by over 50 times. If we go back in time, I can guarantee you that people who bought them right in the beginning must surely would have been discouraged and de-motivated by everybody around them.
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Re: [Technical-Investor] BUY NIFTY 4830-4850, HOLD FOR TGT 5500-5600

 

Ray,
 
Hats off to you, you are the only person I know who had predicted the downfall of Dubai 1 year back...and I am not comparing you to Nostradamus :)
 
AP
 
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From: Ray Seth
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Technical-Investor] BUY NIFTY 4830-4850, HOLD FOR TGT 5500-5600

 

Indian exposure to Thailand was not as much as Indian exposure to US, and current US exposure to Dubai. Nostradamus had predicted the 3rd anti-Christ (in his language, although I do not think he meant religious) would come from the Middle East. All through the years people have been saying Saddam, Osama. I think the anti-Christ (and world is predominantly Christian) is Sheikh Mohammmed.

Dubai will destroy the world.

Regards

Ray

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Prashanth K <prash454.ta@gmail.com> wrote:


I am a Trend Follower and hence for me, I trade what the system tells me. Yesterday went short and shall keep the same till it says to reverse.

But the important point is as to whether this is just another panic or a precursor to something larger.

In May of 1997, a attack on the Thai currency started what we know as the ASEAN Crisis. It did not at that point of time inflect India since we were a closed Economy. 

Can the current Dubai problem start a similar trend which affects everyone world wide? I think only time will tell, but the ASEAN crisis is worth a read.


Cheers

Prashanth


On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:53 AM, BALAJI Jayaraman <bctbalaji@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Those who buy in this panic will be benefited.

BUY NIFTY @ 4830-4850, HOLD FOR TGT 5500-5600 //  Bank Nifty heading 10500+

Nifty (spot) cmp 4841 / 4842 // as i write this  // 4837-4824 is important support zone and bounce back expected

Dont panic. Use dips wisely & be an opportunist. Markets will be heavily volatile. Be ready to face it.

Rgds/Balaji







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Re: [Technical-Investor] BUY NIFTY 4830-4850, HOLD FOR TGT 5500-5600

 

Hi Prashanth,
IWhat timeframe did you get the short signal?
Regards
Ray

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Prashanth K <prash454.ta@gmail.com> wrote:


I am a Trend Follower and hence for me, I trade what the system tells me. Yesterday went short and shall keep the same till it says to reverse.

But the important point is as to whether this is just another panic or a precursor to something larger.

In May of 1997, a attack on the Thai currency started what we know as the ASEAN Crisis. It did not at that point of time inflect India since we were a closed Economy. 

Can the current Dubai problem start a similar trend which affects everyone world wide? I think only time will tell, but the ASEAN crisis is worth a read.


Cheers

Prashanth


On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:53 AM, BALAJI Jayaraman <bctbalaji@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Those who buy in this panic will be benefited.

BUY NIFTY @ 4830-4850, HOLD FOR TGT 5500-5600 //  Bank Nifty heading 10500+

Nifty (spot) cmp 4841 / 4842 // as i write this  // 4837-4824 is important support zone and bounce back expected

Dont panic. Use dips wisely & be an opportunist. Markets will be heavily volatile. Be ready to face it.

Rgds/Balaji







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Today's excitement won't move tomorrow's markets

Don't let that small voice of ego tell you that you have special talents.

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