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Wednesday, November 25, 2009

RE: [Technical-Investor] Jan Nifty Futures at 5640.55

 

it also has a spike down to 5050
 


To: Technical-Investor@yahoogroups.com
From: musadr@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:20:32 +0530
Subject: [Technical-Investor] Jan Nifty Futures at 5640.55

 
A msg I got from a prominent brokerage:

"Jan Nifty futures has a spike of 5640.55 which is also the Upper circuit limit for the contract. This could be a signal for the Bullish Momentum to come in future. Traders can go long in Cash segment (Niftybees) in small quantities for a 20% increase"
26 Nov 09, 12.57 pm.

Just FYI.

Regards,
Musa
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[Technical-Investor] Jan Nifty Futures at 5640.55

 

A msg I got from a prominent brokerage:

"Jan Nifty futures has a spike of 5640.55 which is also the Upper circuit limit for the contract. This could be a signal for the Bullish Momentum to come in future. Traders can go long in Cash segment (Niftybees) in small quantities for a 20% increase"
26 Nov 09, 12.57 pm.

Just FYI.

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[sharetrading] RIL Bonus

 

Wait with patience

--- In sharetrading@yahoogroups.com, saikat pramanik <saikatp2000@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everybody...
>  
> earlier I have 10 shares of RIL.
>  
> Still it is showing 10 shares in DP account . What should I do now?
>  
> pls help
>
> Saikat
> --- On Wed, 25/11/09, Ravi <saharsh1@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Ravi <saharsh1@...>
> Subject: Re: [sharetrading] what wil be the effect of bonus
> To: sharetrading@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, 25 November, 2009, 8:00 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> This is true for Dec Call. I made comment/opinion for Nov Call.
> kk s wrote:
>  
>
> ARRE ravi babu
>  
> I did not ask the opinion on ril , i wanted to know what wil happen to the holding in options
>  
> And i have got the answer.. on the NSE site.. 
>  
> The quantity wil be doubled and the strike price wil be halved because of the 1:1 bonus.
>  
> Thnaks everyone for ur answers
>  
> Kumar
>  
>
>
> To: sharetrading@ yahoogroups. com
> From: saharsh1@gmail. com
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:51:42 +0530
> Subject: Re: [sharetrading] what wil be the effect of bonus
>
>  
>
>
> As per my conviction and calculations RIL will be max cum-bonus @2200 - 2300. Afetr 1:1 bonus it will be halved i.e.
> 1100 - 1150. Also  F &  O  settlement date is 26//11  same  as  RD of  RIL. 
>
> Thus I feel you better exit today itself.
>
> Ravi Deshpande
>
> kk s wrote:
>  
>
>
>  what wil be the effect of bonus in ril in the option segement say i buy a 2310Call what wil i be holding after the bonus???
>  
> Kumar
>
>
>
>
> Check out The Great Australian Pay Check now Want to know what your boss is paid?
>
>
>
>
> With all the lastest places, searching has never been easier. Look now! Looking to move this spring?
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [sharetrading] Do things that you are told not to do !

 

bharti has good support around 271-273 on weekly chart.

i have uploaded the chart on my blog.

TATA ELXSI  is another good stock to hold & ill try to upload the detail chart for the same.

--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Fazal Mohammed <fazal_9290680627@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Fazal Mohammed <fazal_9290680627@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [sharetrading] Do things that you are told not to do !
To: sharetrading@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 3:24 AM

 

United Phosphorus
HUL
Bharthi
JBF Inds.
Tata Elexi

--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Jisso Varghese <jisso3003@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Jisso Varghese <jisso3003@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [sharetrading] Do things that you are told not to do !
To: sharetrading@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 11:20 AM

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
DEAR MODERATOR,
                                IF YOU DONT MIND CAN YOU SUGGEST SOME GOOD  SHARES
FOR LONG TERM INVESTMENT
                                                   THANK YOU
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


--- On Wed, 11/25/09, sharetrading. moderator <sharetrading. moderator@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: sharetrading. moderator <sharetrading. moderator@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [sharetrading] Do things that you are told not to do !
To: sharetrading@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 4:29 AM

 
Over the years, I have realized that the best way to create wealth and invest smartly is to not listen to what people around you are saying. It goes all the way back to even before I started investing. I was told not to invest in the stock markets because it is gambling and almost everybody loses money. It is gambling only for those who invest without knowledge, guidance and based on hot tips and such people do end up losing money. For me it has been one of the best blessings in life.

When I started investing, I was told by brokers and other players to indulge in day trading and futures and options trading. I did try it and ended up losing money. Thankfully, I could afford the losses I made. It taught me a lesson never to listen and follow random people. Following Dhirubhai Ambani, Sunil Mittal or Laxmi Mittal make sense – but following your orthodontist when it comes to investing or business is a bit silly.

Later, when I started picking up value based assets a lot of people, including relatives ridiculed me. I remember long back I picked up Bank of India and how an uncle of mine made fun of me and told me I was too young to understand anything. He told me Bank of India would not be able to survive when big International banks came in India. He was working with an international bank which recently went bankrupt. Bank of India went up all the way from Rs. 10 to Rs. 410. An investment of Rs. 10 lakhs would be worth Rs. 4.10 crores. My uncle instead had spent that Rs. 10 lakhs in buying some Japanese car. I luckily have always believed that we Indians can do anything we want to and we have the power to form the world's best companies

At the peak of the recent stock market crash, I bought while some of the largest Mutual Fund Managers and TV analysts were selling and talking about doom. We all know what happened. It was the same story with Gold. Of course gold has rewarded investors more in dollar terms than rupee terms, but the main spurt in gold is yet to come. Everybody will be surprised by it. RBI has done the right thing by picking it up – they will earn in excess of 200% on their investment in the coming two years.

Throughout life, I have realized that whenever I asked someone for advice they usually told me not to do it. It is too risky. Steel, cement, autos, power all were sectors which I invested in even though people told me not to invest in them. I have realized that the best way to invest most of the times is when everybody else discourages you from investing.

This means that most others have still not realized the potential and the opportunity available. How many people were buying companies like LIC Housing Finance or Jindal Steel and Power barely ten months ago? Today Jindal Steel and Power has rewarded investors over 700% while LIC Housing Finance has rewarded investors over 370%.

Now does it make sense to run behind power IPOs today or run after Jindal Steel and Power at these levels? I would go after new investments which have been ignored by the masses, because once again there is a possibility of extra ordinary returns.

Today a stock like Infosys can not make you several crores, if you were to invest only a couple of lakhs. Two decades ago it would have.

Yesterday I was looking at the balance sheet of a company that can easily reward investors 500%-600% in the coming 2-3 years simply based on fundamentals. Still almost no Mutual Fund, Hedge Fund or Private Investors have noticed it. In fact most of them have discarded it, because they find it more exciting to run behind what is considered `hot'.

Anyone who is investing below Rs. 15 – 20 crore can easily benefit from such opportunities. I do understand that for a Mutual Fund having Rs. 20,000 crore it becomes extremely hard to give the type of returns I am talking about.

If the entire company is worth only Rs. 200 crore, how on earth will they invest anything that makes a sizeable difference?

At this moment stay away from the Sensex – only look at hidden gems. There still are a few. Life always gives us opportunities; it is up to us to make the most of them. Over the years I have seen the financial state of people change simply because they made the right investment decisions.

Financial Technologies, Pantaloons, Bharti (Airtel), Sesa Goa and so many others are all examples of companies that have created immense wealth for investors at one point or the other. Some of them have multiplied investor wealth by over 50 times. If we go back in time, I can guarantee you that people who bought them right in the beginning must surely would have been discouraged and de-motivated by everybody around them.

The next time someone de-motivates you about doing something and tells you not to do something. Think once again. It might just be the thing that will change your life forever!

Outsourced for the motivation and benefit of all
Sharerading Moderator




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Re: [Technical-Investor] Street smart TA techniques

 

Look at Satyam low today, and it has already started running like mad.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Abhijit
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:51 PM
Subject: [Technical-Investor] Street smart TA techniques

 

Hi guys,
 
Regular TA as a subject can be learnt anywhere on the net or through books.
 
The problem is one needs to identify what kind of TA he needs to learn.
 
If you are a trader dealing only in cash delivery, the techniques are different. If you are a FNO trader, techniques are different. Similarly patterns and rules are different for intra day traders.
 
However, there are certain street smart techniques I have picked up over the years, and I will make an attempt to present them here as and when possible.
 

 
I have already posted the OOPS pattern, which is a street smart method (not text book TA).
 
Another pattern that amazes me every time I spot it..............
 
Plot 200 MA and 200 SMA on a chart.
 
Assuming that the price is below both the 200 MAs, following is the pattern that plays out:
 
If the distance between the 2 MA lines is large, as soon as price crosses one decisively, it races to the other line very fast.
 
i.e. if price is below both the 200 DMA and 200 SMA, and 200 DMA is below the 200 SMA.
 
As soon as the price decisvely crosses the 200 DMA, the immediate logical target is the 200 SMA.
 
The beauty of this pattern is that it works on ABSOLUTELY ANY TIME FRAME, even on hourly or 15 minute charts, and one can use it in intra day or positional trading too.
 
I invite those interested in seeing this pattern in more details to post the daily chart of SATYAM on this group, with both 200 DMA and 200 SMA plotted on it.
 
You will see why Satyam fell since it did not cross 128-129, and why the next logical target for Satyam is 78-79!!
 
COME ON.....DO SOME HOME WORK AND PLEASE FIND MORE SUCH STOCKS...you will find hundreds of such cases.
 
Please do not ask for AFLs.....put in some hard work yourself..
 
Cheers,
 
AP
 

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Re: [Technical-Investor] OT: Stock Trading / Investment Contest - 2010

 

Prashanth,
 
Xcellent initiative. sounds exciting. count me in for admin / participation.
R.

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, Prashanth K <prash454.ta@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Prashanth K <prash454.ta@gmail.com>
Subject: [Technical-Investor] OT: Stock Trading / Investment Contest - 2010
To: Technical-Investor@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 12:04 PM

 
Hello,

I am thinking of running a Stock Trading / Investment Contest out
here. The contest will be more of Investment based ( Weekly change in
Portfolio allowed) with a fixed Capital. A US focussed yahoo group has
been doing this for the last couple of years and it really is
interesting to say the least. I would like to have Real Money as
Prize, but am yet to decide on that.

Would like to know what will interest you in being part of it. All
suggestions welcome.

All thoughts welcome.

Cheers

Prashanth

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Re: [sharetrading] what wil be the effect of bonus

 

Hi everybody...
 
earlier I have 10 shares of RIL.
 
Still it is showing 10 shares in DP account . What should I do now?
 
pls help
Saikat
--- On Wed, 25/11/09, Ravi <saharsh1@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Ravi <saharsh1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [sharetrading] what wil be the effect of bonus
To: sharetrading@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 25 November, 2009, 8:00 PM

 
This is true for Dec Call. I made comment/opinion for Nov Call.
kk s wrote:
 
ARRE ravi babu
 
I did not ask the opinion on ril , i wanted to know what wil happen to the holding in options
 
And i have got the answer.. on the NSE site.. 
 
The quantity wil be doubled and the strike price wil be halved because of the 1:1 bonus.
 
Thnaks everyone for ur answers
 
Kumar
 

To: sharetrading@ yahoogroups. com
From: saharsh1@gmail. com
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:51:42 +0530
Subject: Re: [sharetrading] what wil be the effect of bonus

 
As per my conviction and calculations RIL will be max cum-bonus @2200 - 2300. Afetr 1:1 bonus it will be halved i.e.
1100 - 1150. Also  F &  O  settlement date is 26//11  same  as  RD of  RIL. 

Thus I feel you better exit today itself.

Ravi Deshpande

kk s wrote:
 

 what wil be the effect of bonus in ril in the option segement say i buy a 2310Call what wil i be holding after the bonus???
 
Kumar



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Re: [Technical-Investor] OT: Stock Trading / Investment Contest - 2010

 

Prize or no Prize... i m up for it!.


Hopefully.. it will options for long and short. CNBS Bulls eye is only for longs i suppose.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Girish <girish.krishnamurthy@gmail.com> wrote:


Prashanth,

 

Yes, it seems like a good idea but can you explain a bit more J ??

 

Real Money as Prize ??? Who contributes to the prize ?? – Would be keen to know more abt that as well.

 

Thanks.

Girish

 

From: Technical-Investor@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Technical-Investor@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BALAJI Jayaraman
Sent: 26-Nov-2009 12:16
To: Technical-Investor@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Technical-Investor] OT: Stock Trading / Investment Contest - 2010

 

 

Is this something like BULLS EYE program being conducted in CNBC???

3 Guests and 3 stocks or something.....

Rgds/Balaji

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Prashanth K <prash454.ta@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I am thinking of running a Stock Trading / Investment Contest out
here. The contest will be more of Investment based ( Weekly change in
Portfolio allowed) with a fixed Capital. A US focussed yahoo group has
been doing this for the last couple of years and it really is
interesting to say the least. I would like to have Real Money as
Prize, but am yet to decide on that.

Would like to know what will interest you in being part of it. All
suggestions welcome.

All thoughts welcome.

Cheers

Prashanth


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RE: [Technical-Investor] OT: Stock Trading / Investment Contest - 2010

 

Prashanth,

 

Yes, it seems like a good idea but can you explain a bit more J ??

 

Real Money as Prize ??? Who contributes to the prize ?? – Would be keen to know more abt that as well.

 

Thanks.

Girish

 

From: Technical-Investor@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Technical-Investor@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BALAJI Jayaraman
Sent: 26-Nov-2009 12:16
To: Technical-Investor@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Technical-Investor] OT: Stock Trading / Investment Contest - 2010

 

 

Is this something like BULLS EYE program being conducted in CNBC???

3 Guests and 3 stocks or something.....

Rgds/Balaji

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Prashanth K <prash454.ta@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I am thinking of running a Stock Trading / Investment Contest out
here. The contest will be more of Investment based ( Weekly change in
Portfolio allowed) with a fixed Capital. A US focussed yahoo group has
been doing this for the last couple of years and it really is
interesting to say the least. I would like to have Real Money as
Prize, but am yet to decide on that.

Would like to know what will interest you in being part of it. All
suggestions welcome.

All thoughts welcome.

Cheers

Prashanth


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Re: [Technical-Investor] OT: Stock Trading / Investment Contest - 2010

 

Is this something like BULLS EYE program being conducted in CNBC???

3 Guests and 3 stocks or something.....

Rgds/Balaji

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Prashanth K <prash454.ta@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I am thinking of running a Stock Trading / Investment Contest out
here. The contest will be more of Investment based ( Weekly change in
Portfolio allowed) with a fixed Capital. A US focussed yahoo group has
been doing this for the last couple of years and it really is
interesting to say the least. I would like to have Real Money as
Prize, but am yet to decide on that.

Would like to know what will interest you in being part of it. All
suggestions welcome.

All thoughts welcome.

Cheers

Prashanth


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