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Tuesday, May 25, 2010

Re: [indianstockmarket] RCOM

 

ok sir,
 
i was also effected in idea cellular, wat we do  now verly poor in that sector

antan
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Vijay Singh <www.vijaysingh78@yahoo.in> wrote:
 

Telecommunication  stock is not growing at this time. So please left the communication stock, because I have already invested in the Rcom and it give me a huge loss.
 
Vijay Singh
 


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Re: [sharetrading] Gold ETF ?????????????

 

The theory that STT is not charged on Gold ETF is NOT correct, I have all 3 bills and it is charged as normal STT, hence we have to get exemption from LTCG if we sell after 12 months, how can we treat that as debt MF? when it is traded on SE and hence more clarification is required from people who know tax laws,
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From: minesh temkar <minesh_temkar@yahoo.com>
To: sharetrading@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 9:57:22 PM
Subject: Re: [sharetrading] Gold ETF ?????????????

 

Tax implications on Gold ETFs are same as those on debt mutual funds.

 A unit of a Gold ETF that is held for less than twelve months is treated as a short-term capital asset. Gains on the same are taxed at the investor's marginal rate of tax.

 Units held for more than twelve months are treated as long-term capital assets. Long-term capital gains are taxed at 20% (after allowing for indexation benefit) or 10% (without indexation benefit), whichever is less. 


Technically Indicators in Gold ETF  has made higher high though price has double top.
Need to wait before selling.

 i feel it will be too early to exit from gold. Members should decide before acting on it. 




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From: shravank30@hotmail. com <shravank30@hotmail. com>
Subject: Re: [sharetrading] Gold ETF ???????????? ?
To: sharetrading@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 2:28 AM

 

STT is not deducted when buying selling GOLD etfs
 
As such the exemption does not apply
 

 
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [sharetrading] Gold ETF ???????????? ?

 

can anyone confirm whether the rules of LTCG applies to Gold ETF also like, more than 12 months holding and is the Cap gain made on that is exempted?? some people have doubt over this,
kkc



From: sharetrading. moderator <sharetrading. moderator@ yahoo.com>
To: sharetrading@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 5:05:49 PM
Subject: [sharetrading] Gold ETF ???????????? ?

 

Most of the Gold ETF`s are in the process of forming double top which when confirmed can be a bearish sign

Holders should remain alert and watchful

Fresh buying should be strictly avoided till the price breaches earlier top

Personally I am getting out of my Gold ETF may be for a long time to come




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**[investwise]** Could Nifty Hit 4000 By Mid July 2010? [1 Attachment]

 
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INTERESTING TO SEE THAT SOME COINCIDENCES ARE A.....MUST READ:
 
"MAY" Is a Good Time to Toss Out Stocks You Doubt: John Dorfman

Interesting Statistic:; For whatever it is worth..........
Indian Performance: NIFTY melts in Indian Summer in EVEN YEARS..

Since 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008.. NIFTY TOPS either beginning of April or May and by end of June or July crashes 25-35%. In fact in most cases more closer to 30%..

Will 2010 be different......??????

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[sharetrading] ASIA

 

Today will be a positive day, it seems so…..

But CF, remains to be seen at what it will close today at…..

The markets are very volatile. Some can take advantage of same….

Mostly a sideways range will be established this week….

 

Abe

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RE: [sharetrading] US markets

 

Recently when DJI made a low near 9800, every one  commented it as a computer glitch. Bow in the last low of 9800 which is a lower low than the prior glitch one.

I am of the opinion that markets are range bound on Higher TF’s. Hence use strategy to sell tops and buy lows. I read in a book 2 years ago, by an US author of projected sideways range till 2011-12. So be prepared for same. Right now, many valuable scrip’s are available at 30-40% discount. Check out and enter then on some signal…

 

Only sector I would avoid would be TELCOM for time being. Check out mining oil power gas minerals engineering and other core sectors…

 

Abe

 


From: sharetrading@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sharetrading@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ganesh Iyer
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [sharetrading] US markets [2 Attachments]

 

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Attached 1.jpg is DJI 60 min intraday chart and 2.jpg is EOD. Your comments Abe.

 


From: A P Abraham <abrahamap@airtelmail.in>
To: sharetrading@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 25 May, 2010 8:50:33 PM
Subject: [sharetrading] US markets

 

US markets seem to be trying to get up. It will rebound only if DJI 10170 is crossed.

The distance from here till that is like a deep chasm wall.

 

It will be at least 3 days b4 that can be covered…

But 9750 low seems will hold…..

 

 



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RE: [sharetrading] NIFTY

 

Please stay away from futures, unless you are able to see a bigger picture of global markets and it gyrations. And your TA is reasonably correct at least 60% of time. Typically most retailers who are used to buying and holding cash positions are not comfortable holding short positions. Also when holding futures it creates a shiver in the pit of your stomach, due to the uncertainty.

 

Before you wish to enter F&O, you should be willing to do a sabbatical. That is getting rid of all your cash positions. And with 50K, do daily buying and selling in cash scrip’s, who’s TA you have analyzed. Minimum requirement – Nifty should be in advancing mode or AD ratio should be positive. Any negativeness, emergency EXIT. NO Carry Forward to next day. SL is 0.4-5% ID of buy entry irrespective whatever the future prospects are. So in 20 trading days max loss is 10%. If you are able to achieve > 1% return after all expenses, take it up to 100000. Do that for the next month. Absolutely NO CF. When you have achieved that, you can go to next step. I will be around….. Meantime maintain a book with daily activity and feelings associated. Do not take assistance in analyzing the markets… Sometime it would take you couple of months to get the real hang of you firstly and then the markets…

 

In the whole process, improve your TA knowledge…..beyond what you already know…

If you are unwilling to do this, then F&O is not your cup of tea and accept it as such and stay w/CF cash positions…

 

Every 2-3 months market s give good opp to buy in…… and sell out also..

 


From: sharetrading@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sharetrading@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sun Fiji
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:54 PM
To: sharetrading@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sharetrading] NIFTY

 




Dear Abe

 

Till date i am doing trading with stocks only.  If I want to trade NIFTY futures / Mini-NIFTY futures, what is the minimum amount I should have in my account.  I am a small trader.  I use only buy and sell strategy on stocks.  sometimes it will give gain for me.  sometimes i have to hold the stocks due to no intraday gain. 

 

I expect your reply.

 

Thanks for your consideration.

 

 

Shanmugasundaram

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From: A P Abraham <abrahamap@airtelmail.in>
Subject: [sharetrading] NIFTY
To: sharetrading@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 25 May, 2010, 2:59 PM

 

The operators have moved Nifty to a nice down value. Now in all probabilities will be writing Nifty puts…….

The way markets are moving, something bigger than GREECE crisis seems to be looming ahead….. Be very concerned…

 

Irrespective, it is my opinion one should check out individual scrips of NIFTY which is signaling and take an entry in such till nifty clears major hurdles…  I do not see NIFTY future returning any major moves.. Whereas scrips could do better.

 

I expect Nifty to have topped out in MT and one should make exit at next rise and reversal. I expect NIFTY to turn shortly in near days.

 

Abe



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**[investwise]** Aban Offshore: Unmitigated Disaster

 

Aban Offshore: Huge write-offs and a rig loss will put pressure on the company's operations

In FY09 Aban wrote off a Russian rig, booking roughly Rs 200 cr in losses. In FY10, it has lost Rs 75 crore on currency, written off investments in a bankrupt Norwegian outfit, and finally lost a Rs 1200 crore rig into the waters off Venezuela.


It is obvious like so many other Indian companies, Aban has failed to show any ability run global drilling operations. The debt equity now stands at 7, and the corporate will need a bail-out just to survive if not an outright sell-off by the promoter Reji Abraham.


With a debt-equity ratio of around 7:1, payment of debt with reduced revenues increases concerns. The company has announced that it will be raise Rs 4,407 crore through a mix of debt and depository receipts. This will entail an equity dilution and put further pressure on its share price. Claiming insurance for Aban Pearl can be a long process. Therefore, the company will take some time to mend before it cruises into calmer waters.


Aban Offshore seems to be hit by the fury of the weather gods. In the fourth quarter, when strong fleet utilisation pulled revenues up by 32 per cent to Rs 1,020 crore, beating market expectations, operating profit margins fell 294 basis points to 52.78 per cent due to the exchange rate fluctuation loss of around Rs 74.36 crore. 


This was despite a 25 per cent year-on-year increase in earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation (Ebitda) to Rs 538.91 crore.


The company also had to provide another Rs 120.52 crore as a write-off related to Petrojack, as the Norwegian company (in which Aban had 18 per cent stake) filed for bankruptcy. The net profit fell 56 per cent on a year-on-year basis to Rs 39.26 crore.


For the whole year, revenues grew 10 per cent and operating margins rose 215 basis points to 58.96 per cent, but net profit plunged 42.5 per cent due to the diminished value of equity investment in the Norwegian company.


If this was not enough, Aban lost its rig, Aban Pearl, in the Caribbean waters. This highest-contributing rig used to earn revenues of $358,000 per day. Though the rig had a full hull insurance cover of $235 million, the loss to revenues was a big hit. A respite comes with the letter of intent being received for a four-year deployment of its vacant rig, Deep Driller 6.


Estimated revenues from the contract stand at $187 million, not sufficient to make up for the loss of revenues from Aban Pearl.



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