I guess if one argues well enough and long enough one can convince anybody of anything. Like at this stage one can argue equally well for nifty 4200 first or 5300 first. But who knows the answer? Neela A
--- On Sun, 7/2/10, Murtaza Attari <stocks.murtaza@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Murtaza Attari <stocks.murtaza@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Technical-Investor] OFF TOPIC Faith, after all no one has seen God!
To: Technical-Investor@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 7 February, 2010, 5:38 AM
This is just a small excerpt (truncated at the end) from an email I recd. I will not and urge others too to not discuss (It is a highly debatable subject with personal and many different viewpoints)
this email nor the topic any further. This is just for a small read. What one concludes is their view/reasoning/ problem/whatever .... Just so that we get a slight glimpse of what we are and nothing more ..... It took 5000 years for mankind to make an airplane. But Birds have been flying since time began, and they don't meet with accidents. Men have been walking the earth since eternity. But Robots are a laugh, at best. The Power of thought or the freedom to feel, can never be inculcated into these pre-programmed Klutzies Where would one rate a Camera to the Eye? Or the computer to the Brain? Similarly the Universe is such a mystery, that the deeper one probes, the more baffled they grow. Did Intelligence come first or the Universe? And yet, in spite of all extremely obvious conclusions, human kind deduces, that Science has advanced to an extent, where one can take liberty in denying the existence of the Creator. And some of us are so gullible, that we tend to believe this Joke. True! Science is a conduit for progress of the physical world, but then it has not has not been able to even scratch the surface of this Vast Creation. Science is far even from infancy, it may not even be in the embryo stage. As aptly put by a Saint "If one studies oneself, will one realize, that his origin is from a smelly drop of semen, and his end is smelly rotting flesh, and in-between, he is a carrier of manure; then, on what premise does he boast of greatness?". If one looks into a blade of grass under a microscope, will one endorse, that it is absolutely beyond the realm of the Human mind, to even comprehend the intricacies of the Creator. And Yet, to all the mysteries of the Universe and the Creation, there have to be answers. Only one needs to know where to look for them. Science cannot answer them. | ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Technical-Investor ] OFF TOPIC Faith, after all no one has seen God!
if this is what einstein think of God, then I can say that v r same minded. 
From: Ray Seth <rayseth@gmail. com>
To: Technical-Investor@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:05:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Technical-Investor ] OFF TOPIC Faith, after all no one has seen God!
No such incident was ever reported in Albert Einstein's life. Here are two quotes by Einstein on God. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954) I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. (Albert Einstein) Regards Ray
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 5:14 AM, V Srinivasan <vsvasan.v@gmail. com> wrote: A very interesting off topic subject. seenu On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Soundararajan PP <soundararajanpp@ gmail.com> wrote:
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An Atheist Professor of Philosophy was speaking to his Class on the problem Science has with GOD, the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of his New Christian Students to stand and . . .
Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, you Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn't.
How is this GOD good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent )
Professor : You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, Young Fella. Is GOD Good?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : From . . . GOD . . .
Professor : That's right. Tell Me son, is there evil in this World?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer)
Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?
(Student had no answer)
Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you. Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes,Faith. And that is the problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn't.
(The Lecture Theatre became very quiet with this turn of events )
Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat,
a Little Heat or No Heat. But we don't have anything called Cold.
We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go
any further after that. There is no such thing as Cold.
Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.
We cannot Measure Cold. Heat is Energy.
Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.
(There was Pin-Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )
Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir.
Darkness is the Absence of Something
You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light . . .
But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and its called
Darkness, isn't it?
In reality, Darkness isn't.
If it is, were you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality.
You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD
and a Bad GOD.
You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something
we can measure.
Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought.
It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully
understood either one.
To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that
Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing.
Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it
Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved from a Monkey?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument was going )
Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and
Cannot even prove that this Process is an On-Going Endeavor,
Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?
Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?
(The Class was in Uproar )
Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen the Professor's Brain?
(The Class broke out into Laughter )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's Brain,
Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . . .
No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable,
Demonstrable Protocol,
Science says that You have No Brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?
(The Room was Silent. The Professor stared at the Student, his face unfathomable)
Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student : That is it sir . . . Exactly !
The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH.
That is all that Keeps Things Alive and Moving.
That student was Albert Einstein.
So, I am told.
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