----- Original Message -----From: Rohan ShenoySent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 20:04 PMSubject: RE: [Technical-Investor] Perfectionism- Please take 5 minutes and read carefully Can you spot big buying or big selling buy looking at charts? Is it really
that easy? No in my opinion.
You are right that price makes charts, but price movements are not
influenced by any single player. Multiple players come into play. So every
player needs to knows what are the likely players that can come to play at
various levels.
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:57:15 +1100, kk s <kumar40@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Can we forget that it is the price that makes the charts and not the
other
> way round???
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> A big buying and continous buying can change the current bearish trend
and
> vice a versa.
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> kumar
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> To: Technical-Investor@yahoogroups. com
> From: contact@rohanshenoy.com
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:07:11 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Technical-Investor] Perfectionism- Please take 5 minutes and
> read carefully
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> Though I cannot do it, I believe that almost all charts can be read with
> great accuracy and there is surefire evidence to this. When a person say
> perfection cannot be achieved, it should be heard and understood as
> "Atleast I could not achieve it".
>
> At times, I have seen famous hardcore technical analysts(one of them is a
> regular guest at CNBC TV18) basing their opinions on fundamentals like PE
> ration, EPS, etc. Opposite has also been observed. What meaning should we
> make of this? The most appropriate meaning if this is - neither the
> technical nor the fundamental analyst knows anything for sure about what
> they are doing. They are just playing the guess game.
>
> Pull up charts of Indian markets and major foreign markets(read Dow
Jones).
> You will see similar volume and price patterns. This means that there are
> surely some people who can read the market with great accuracy. These
> people can recognize accumulation and distribution with very great
success.
> However, it is unlikely that you are one of them.
>
> A question to ask ourself- Just because we heard someone saying 'Idealism
> does not exist' or 'Perfection is impossible', are we stopping ourselves
> from improving by consoling ourself saying 'Why to work hard for
something
> that does not exist'?
>
> Perfectionism is not the result, it is a by-product of our methods. And
if
> our methods are flawed, expecting perfectionism is only going to
> disappoint. For ex: We all know that 'past performance is not a guarantee
> of future performance'. Inspite this, you find a vast majority of traders
> using moving averages. My purpose is not to criticize anybody's moving
> average trading system. Buy using moving averages, we are forming a
> subconscious assumption that price will behave as it has behaved in the
> past. Since our assumption is wrong or rather not always correct, a
trading
> system which is based on that assumption will automatically inherit the
> flaws.
>
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:48:24 +0530 (IST), Meerut Money Managers
> <meerutmoneymanagers@yahoo.in > wrote:
>> Perfectionism
>> Trading is not about perfection. It is about probability and progress.
> All
>> charts, analyses (fundamental and technical) and trading plans are built
> on
>> probabilities.
>> Why then, do so many traders strive for perfection? Why do so many
> traders
>> miss trades, waiting for exactly the right entry and then beat up on
>> themselves when it doesn't come and the position runs away while they
> sit
>> there scratching their heads and condemning themselves?
>> Why are so many traders trying to turn a game of probability into one of
>> 100% certainty?
>> The answer lies in one of the cardinal sins of trading which is
>> PERFECTIONISM.
>> Perfectionism can be a great help to people in many professions, but can
> be
>> fatal to a trader. Perfectionists, always trying to find the Holy Grail
> of
>> trading go from one service to another, from one system to another,
> looking
>> for a way that they can be right all the time. YES! Now, I found it.
> It's
>> this trading room, or this service, or this indicator! Wait… something
> is
>> wrong here. Not all of these trades are working and I have draw downs!
> How
>> can it be that this particular method failed and I actually had to take
a
>> loss? Must be something wrong. I will try harder and look for an even
>> better system, a more expensive service, a new and improved guru, some
>> absolutely no-fail software so that I can have ONLY WINNING TRADES.
>> This is perfectionism in action. Not only does this type of irrational
>> behavior and belief undermine and demoralize a trader, but it takes away
>> all the enjoyment and fun of being in the markets. It leads to
depression
>> with depletion of psychic and physical energy, and leaves the
> perfectionist
>> to confront his basic and overriding fear— fear of failure. In the
>> extreme, it leads to physical and mental illness, including addiction to
>> prescription drugs, alcohol, or illegal substances as well as other
>> addictions. The pain of failure or the haunting fear of failure is
simply
>> overwhelming, and one turns to whatever works to medicate the pain.
>> If you have a perfectionist mentality when trading, you are setting
>> yourself up for failure, because it is a "given" that you will
>> experience losses along the way. You must begin to think of trading as a
>> game of probability. Your losses ( that you hope will return to
> breakeven)
>> will kill you. If you cannot take a loss when it is small ( because of
> the
>> need to be perfect), then you will watch that small loss grow into a
> larger
>> loss and so on into a vicious cycle of more and more pain for the
>> perfectionist. Trading on hope does not work. The markets can remain
>> irrational for a lot longer than you can remain solvent.
>> The object should be excellence in trading, not perfection. Moreover, it
> is
>> essential to strive for excellence over a sustained period, as opposed
to
>> judging that each trade must be excellent. This is a marathon…not a
>> sprint.
>> The greatest traders know how to take cut losses and let winning
> positions
>> run. Perfectionists often do exactly the opposite. They get in at the
> wrong
>> time, stay in too long and then get out the wrong time. Perfectionists
> are
>> always striving and never arriving. The market will find the flaw in a
>> perfectionist trader and exploit it day after day. The market is your
>> greatest teacher and your most demanding critic, so take this wonderful
>> opportunity every day to learn about yourself and make yourself strong.
>> If you see in yourself this trait of perfectionism rearing its ugly
head,
>> it's OK to get angry at it and even yell or curse at it. Do whatever
it
>> takes to acknowledge it and then find a way to fix it.
>> Here are a few suggestions:
>> * Try to appreciate and enjoy the process as well as the outcome.
>> * Set more achievable and realistic goals for your trading.
>> * Remember that your self-worth and your worth as a human being to those
>> who love you does not fluctuate from day to day depending on if you win
> or
>> lose that day.
>> * Focus less on achievement and more on enjoyment. Trading is serious,
> but
>> it should be fun and not something which one approaches with fear and
>> dread.
>> * Lighten up. Laugh more (especially at yourself).
>> * Learn from your mistakes, and forgive yourself and make peace with
> your
>> past. Strive to be better…not perfect…just a amazing human work in
>> progress.
>> "If we were always to wait for the most favorable combination of
>> circumstances, no enterprise would ever be undertaken. There can be no
> end
>> without a beginning–there was never an enterprise in which everything
>> fitted in perfectly, for chance plays a leading part in the affairs of
> all
>> men. Obedience to rule does not ensure success, but success, on the
other
>> hand, furnishes a canon – a rule of conduct" ~ Napoleon Bonaparte
>> THANKS & REGARDS
>>
>>
>> MEERUT MONEY MANAGERS (MMM)
>> www.meerutmoneymanagers.com
>>
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