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Wednesday, March 31, 2010

Re: [sharetrading] Yahoo! Groups will be down for a scheduled outage on Thursday, April 1

 

and market is also closed , so no problem

    efan     


--- On Wed, 3/31/10, smartmelvin <smartmelvin@gmail.com> wrote:

From: smartmelvin <smartmelvin@gmail.com>
Subject: [sharetrading] Yahoo! Groups will be down for a scheduled outage on Thursday, April 1
To: sharetrading@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 1:33 AM

 
Yahoo! Groups will be down for a scheduled outage on Thursday, April 1

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[Attachment(s) from Vivek Karwa | VRIDHI included below]

Off topic but very interesting! Hence thought shld share with u all.
 
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Fwd: Russell Napier-India Will Provide Superior, Spectacular Returns Over China!

 
As an investment destination, India often suffers in comparison to China,
but India's problems come from tackling its most difficult problems first.  

We now perceive a tipping point where structural impediments have been sufficiently dismantled to permit a new form of economic growth. Many investors ignore the order evolving out of India's apparent chaos, while also failing to accept that China's state-imposed order will one day decompose.  

This dynamic means that returns from Indian equities are likely to far surpass Chinese equities over the medium and long term.  

Structural mispricing of money is ending in India, but not China

􀂉

India often compares unfavourably to China, but India's problems come from

tackling the most difficult problems first; China has postponed these problems.

􀂉

China is not working to privatise its financial system or create a more porous

capital account.

􀂉

China is not focused on domestic consumption-driven growth, nor is it moving to a

more representative, less corrupt political system.

􀂉

China's economic foundations are based on government-determined prices,

whereas India has moved materially towards market rates.

 

The post-mercantilist world will begin in India  

􀂉

India is far advanced on China in developing a private-sector financial system.

􀂉

India is nearer to a market rate for exchange rates and interest rates than China.

􀂉

India is less reliant on exports and can move more easily to a consumption-driven

economy than China can.

􀂉

India's private-sector banking system can more easily provide consumer credit,

whereas Chinese credit is still needed to support state businesses, not consumers.

􀂉

If China does not abandon mercantilism, it will depress inflation and help India

to grow.

 

India's democracy is starting to look like the USA's circa 1900  

􀂉

Foreign investors regularly fled from the chaotic democracy of the late-19th Century

United States.

􀂉

The order of the British Empire was an investment illusion.
􀂉
When India's democracy works, Indians can be as successful at home as abroad.
 

In 2010 there is a general realisation that mercantilist policies have reached their limit. The West's ability to continually gear up to buy more stuff is clearly much more limited now. In particular, it is difficult to see how very populous countries such as China and India can achieve western living standards by sticking with mercantilist policies.  

A key question for investors must be how easy it will be for any individual country to make the transition to the post-mercantilist world. While this report deals with the many differences between China and India, the crucial conclusion is that China still faces many hurdles, whereas India is far ahead.  

Whichever emerging market can make this transition would both deliver the returns expected from high GDP growth, while simultaneously breaking the correlation of returns with developed markets. India is the Asian equity market most likely to deliver.  

While there is much to criticise in Indian bureaucracy, there is also much to praise. In particular, the financial regulators at the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) and the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) are forwardlooking and are methodically steering the financial system towards something more fitting to the 21

st Century.  

As communications experts vaunt the ability to leapfrog out-of-date technology, so the SEBI and RBI have the ability to leapfrog the intellectual cul de sac

of the dangerous risk-taking activities born of the efficient-markets hypothesis.  

No regulator will ever be perfect and faults will occur, but the relative stability of the Indian financial system during the recent extreme trial is a key indicator that SEBI and the RBI have, at this stage, put firm foundations in place for India's financial superstructure.  

While other regulators have much bad to undo and much to relearn, the Indian financial bureaucracy is ahead of the game. As the western world rebuilds or recasts its financial regulation with the usual unforeseen consequences, it will be "steady as she goes" for the Indian financial system.  

We are all in bed with the bureaucrats now, so what matters is whether you are investing in a jurisdiction with good or bad bureaucrats. In the new structural normal, a bad bureaucrat can screw up returns on equity with the same unintended precision as bad management. 

In this light, India's plodding but improving bureaucracy has much to recommend it over the newly resurgent bureaucracy of the West, desperate to show its power relative to capital and likely to be rolling up its sleeves and getting ready for a brawl.  

India's state is on the retreat. The public debt-to-GDP ratio is already falling. While of course much will depend on the pace of economic growth, a structural rise in the tax take is also working in India's favour. By pushing ahead with the direct Tax Code and the GST, India is making structural strides to fix its fiscal problems at a time when other countries' structural fiscal problems are getting worse.  

The "new normal" is more government. In India this might not be the case - and anyway, that government is likely to be one of Mr Rumsfeld's 'known knowns' rather than the numerous 'unknown unknowns' inherent in the rising role of government intervention elsewhere in the world.



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Nothing in this article is, or should be construed as, investment advice.
 
 
 

 
 
 



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Re: [sharetrading] Re:

 

hi Anita. sorry to jump in. couldn't resist to share my experience to warn u against possible threat. it's not important how much capital u r trading with. in fact, as a beginner, it's in your benefit to start with little amount even if u r able to deploy more. another thing to keep in mind is risk & money management. that's how much u r ready to loss in one trade if gone against u. u should be able to take sixth trade after 5 consistent loss making trade. normally ratio is keeping loss at 2 % of total trading capital per trade. thus u will survive to remain in market even if some trade goes wrong. do follow this for a month & review all the trade after 1 month & decide further course. if u r not familiar with TA, will advice to be familiar with it. after some know how of TA, do some paper trading. before taking position, be sure about last 10 day's level of the script u r going to take position. be sure at which level u r going to buy & exit. remember, u can buy 1 share of any coast in mkt. quantity shoud be not given importance at start. u can increase quantity later with improving success ratio. & last but not least, please trade as per your capital. never ever try to trade on margin. now a days broker gives 4-10 times margin to capital. that means u can trade 25000 on 5000 ammount.it's only good after u become experienced & consistance profit making. else, u will loss your capital if trade went against u. also don't trade short at starting. go long only. again warn u, keep risk & money management. trade as per capital. go long only at start. do some paper trading. then start with small quantity. keep revising your track record per week & revise if find some loophole. wish u all the best & happy trading.


From: rapanzel Singh <s.rapanzel@yahoo.com>
To: sharetrading@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 31 March, 2010 8:54:35 AM
Subject: [sharetrading] Re:

 

Anita,
       You saw Sun Fiji well said, That was great!! you could start with small investment to learn it is what you get not how much, you could start with small profit and carry on. There are  people holding big shares with large investment and there may be no profit may be under loss ha ha!!.
 


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[Ways-2gain] Russell Napier-India Will Provide Superior, Spectacular Returns Over China! [1 Attachment]

 
[Attachment(s) from arun varghese included below]





As an investment destination, India often suffers in comparison to China,
but India's problems come from tackling its most difficult problems first.  

We now perceive a tipping point where structural impediments have been sufficiently dismantled to permit a new form of economic growth. Many investors ignore the order evolving out of India's apparent chaos, while also failing to accept that China's state-imposed order will one day decompose.  

This dynamic means that returns from Indian equities are likely to far surpass Chinese equities over the medium and long term.  

Structural mispricing of money is ending in India, but not China

􀂉

India often compares unfavourably to China, but India's problems come from

tackling the most difficult problems first; China has postponed these problems.

􀂉

China is not working to privatise its financial system or create a more porous

capital account.

􀂉

China is not focused on domestic consumption-driven growth, nor is it moving to a

more representative, less corrupt political system.

􀂉

China's economic foundations are based on government-determined prices,

whereas India has moved materially towards market rates.

 

The post-mercantilist world will begin in India  

􀂉

India is far advanced on China in developing a private-sector financial system.

􀂉

India is nearer to a market rate for exchange rates and interest rates than China.

􀂉

India is less reliant on exports and can move more easily to a consumption-driven

economy than China can.

􀂉

India's private-sector banking system can more easily provide consumer credit,

whereas Chinese credit is still needed to support state businesses, not consumers.

􀂉

If China does not abandon mercantilism, it will depress inflation and help India

to grow.

 

India's democracy is starting to look like the USA's circa 1900  

􀂉

Foreign investors regularly fled from the chaotic democracy of the late-19th Century

United States.

􀂉

The order of the British Empire was an investment illusion.
􀂉
When India's democracy works, Indians can be as successful at home as abroad.
 

In 2010 there is a general realisation that mercantilist policies have reached their limit. The West's ability to continually gear up to buy more stuff is clearly much more limited now. In particular, it is difficult to see how very populous countries such as China and India can achieve western living standards by sticking with mercantilist policies.  

A key question for investors must be how easy it will be for any individual country to make the transition to the post-mercantilist world. While this report deals with the many differences between China and India, the crucial conclusion is that China still faces many hurdles, whereas India is far ahead.  

Whichever emerging market can make this transition would both deliver the returns expected from high GDP growth, while simultaneously breaking the correlation of returns with developed markets. India is the Asian equity market most likely to deliver.  

While there is much to criticise in Indian bureaucracy, there is also much to praise. In particular, the financial regulators at the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) and the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) are forwardlooking and are methodically steering the financial system towards something more fitting to the 21

st Century.  

As communications experts vaunt the ability to leapfrog out-of-date technology, so the SEBI and RBI have the ability to leapfrog the intellectual cul de sac

of the dangerous risk-taking activities born of the efficient-markets hypothesis.  

No regulator will ever be perfect and faults will occur, but the relative stability of the Indian financial system during the recent extreme trial is a key indicator that SEBI and the RBI have, at this stage, put firm foundations in place for India's financial superstructure.  

While other regulators have much bad to undo and much to relearn, the Indian financial bureaucracy is ahead of the game. As the western world rebuilds or recasts its financial regulation with the usual unforeseen consequences, it will be "steady as she goes" for the Indian financial system.  

We are all in bed with the bureaucrats now, so what matters is whether you are investing in a jurisdiction with good or bad bureaucrats. In the new structural normal, a bad bureaucrat can screw up returns on equity with the same unintended precision as bad management. 

In this light, India's plodding but improving bureaucracy has much to recommend it over the newly resurgent bureaucracy of the West, desperate to show its power relative to capital and likely to be rolling up its sleeves and getting ready for a brawl.  

India's state is on the retreat. The public debt-to-GDP ratio is already falling. While of course much will depend on the pace of economic growth, a structural rise in the tax take is also working in India's favour. By pushing ahead with the direct Tax Code and the GST, India is making structural strides to fix its fiscal problems at a time when other countries' structural fiscal problems are getting worse.  

The "new normal" is more government. In India this might not be the case - and anyway, that government is likely to be one of Mr Rumsfeld's 'known knowns' rather than the numerous 'unknown unknowns' inherent in the rising role of government intervention elsewhere in the world.



Safe Harbor Statement:

Some forward looking statements on projections, estimates, expectations & outlook are included to enable a better comprehension of the Company prospects. Actual results may, however, differ materially from those stated on account of factors such as changes in government regulations, tax regimes, economic developments within India and the countries within which the Company conducts its business, exchange rate and interest rate movements, impact of competing products and their pricing, product demand and supply constraints.
 
Nothing in this article is, or should be construed as, investment advice.
 
 
 

 
 
 



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**[investwise]** Russell Napier-India Will Provide Superior, Spectacular Returns Over China! [1 Attachment]

 
[Attachment(s) from arun varghese included below]





As an investment destination, India often suffers in comparison to China,
but India's problems come from tackling its most difficult problems first.  

We now perceive a tipping point where structural impediments have been sufficiently dismantled to permit a new form of economic growth. Many investors ignore the order evolving out of India's apparent chaos, while also failing to accept that China's state-imposed order will one day decompose.  

This dynamic means that returns from Indian equities are likely to far surpass Chinese equities over the medium and long term.  

Structural mispricing of money is ending in India, but not China

􀂉

India often compares unfavourably to China, but India's problems come from

tackling the most difficult problems first; China has postponed these problems.

􀂉

China is not working to privatise its financial system or create a more porous

capital account.

􀂉

China is not focused on domestic consumption-driven growth, nor is it moving to a

more representative, less corrupt political system.

􀂉

China's economic foundations are based on government-determined prices,

whereas India has moved materially towards market rates.

 

The post-mercantilist world will begin in India  

􀂉

India is far advanced on China in developing a private-sector financial system.

􀂉

India is nearer to a market rate for exchange rates and interest rates than China.

􀂉

India is less reliant on exports and can move more easily to a consumption-driven

economy than China can.

􀂉

India's private-sector banking system can more easily provide consumer credit,

whereas Chinese credit is still needed to support state businesses, not consumers.

􀂉

If China does not abandon mercantilism, it will depress inflation and help India

to grow.

 

India's democracy is starting to look like the USA's circa 1900  

􀂉

Foreign investors regularly fled from the chaotic democracy of the late-19th Century

United States.

􀂉

The order of the British Empire was an investment illusion.
􀂉
When India's democracy works, Indians can be as successful at home as abroad.
 

In 2010 there is a general realisation that mercantilist policies have reached their limit. The West's ability to continually gear up to buy more stuff is clearly much more limited now. In particular, it is difficult to see how very populous countries such as China and India can achieve western living standards by sticking with mercantilist policies.  

A key question for investors must be how easy it will be for any individual country to make the transition to the post-mercantilist world. While this report deals with the many differences between China and India, the crucial conclusion is that China still faces many hurdles, whereas India is far ahead.  

Whichever emerging market can make this transition would both deliver the returns expected from high GDP growth, while simultaneously breaking the correlation of returns with developed markets. India is the Asian equity market most likely to deliver.  

While there is much to criticise in Indian bureaucracy, there is also much to praise. In particular, the financial regulators at the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) and the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) are forwardlooking and are methodically steering the financial system towards something more fitting to the 21

st Century.  

As communications experts vaunt the ability to leapfrog out-of-date technology, so the SEBI and RBI have the ability to leapfrog the intellectual cul de sac

of the dangerous risk-taking activities born of the efficient-markets hypothesis.  

No regulator will ever be perfect and faults will occur, but the relative stability of the Indian financial system during the recent extreme trial is a key indicator that SEBI and the RBI have, at this stage, put firm foundations in place for India's financial superstructure.  

While other regulators have much bad to undo and much to relearn, the Indian financial bureaucracy is ahead of the game. As the western world rebuilds or recasts its financial regulation with the usual unforeseen consequences, it will be "steady as she goes" for the Indian financial system.  

We are all in bed with the bureaucrats now, so what matters is whether you are investing in a jurisdiction with good or bad bureaucrats. In the new structural normal, a bad bureaucrat can screw up returns on equity with the same unintended precision as bad management. 

In this light, India's plodding but improving bureaucracy has much to recommend it over the newly resurgent bureaucracy of the West, desperate to show its power relative to capital and likely to be rolling up its sleeves and getting ready for a brawl.  

India's state is on the retreat. The public debt-to-GDP ratio is already falling. While of course much will depend on the pace of economic growth, a structural rise in the tax take is also working in India's favour. By pushing ahead with the direct Tax Code and the GST, India is making structural strides to fix its fiscal problems at a time when other countries' structural fiscal problems are getting worse.  

The "new normal" is more government. In India this might not be the case - and anyway, that government is likely to be one of Mr Rumsfeld's 'known knowns' rather than the numerous 'unknown unknowns' inherent in the rising role of government intervention elsewhere in the world.



Safe Harbor Statement:

Some forward looking statements on projections, estimates, expectations & outlook are included to enable a better comprehension of the Company prospects. Actual results may, however, differ materially from those stated on account of factors such as changes in government regulations, tax regimes, economic developments within India and the countries within which the Company conducts its business, exchange rate and interest rate movements, impact of competing products and their pricing, product demand and supply constraints.
 
Nothing in this article is, or should be construed as, investment advice.
 
 
 

 
 
 



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Stocks, mutual funds and the entire investment gamut.  Only financing/investment avenues in India will be discussed. 

For any assistance, questions or improvement ideas, contact investwise-owner@yahoogroups.co.in

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